A private investigator pretended to text a 13 year old girl and went to a fledgling lawyer, Asaf Dok, and got some “tips” to evade prosecution such as “Destroy your phone”. A police investigation was soon to follow.
The
criminal lawyer who explains how not to get caught fell into a trap and was seen
himself.
After Assaf Doc was caught “red-handed”
explaining how to lie, A complaint was forwarded to the police along with the
following transcript: By the way, attorney Assaf Doc never filed a lawsuit over
the exposure of Avi Dubitzky, the private investigator who posed as a
pedophile, or against the Walla news website or the reporter Gali Ginat who
published the story.
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc: -Hello. Nati and I spoke on the phone yesterday. He came to tell me some. I
more or less understood that it was related to Avi Dubitzky’s activities.
Right?
-yes
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-So we will now listen from beginning to end. Of course, everything he says
will sit on attorney-client confidentiality, and you need to be honest and
truthful enough with us so that we can help you.
-Good. Two weeks ago, I started
some correspondence with a girl.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-What did she call herself in the chat?
-Tali
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc:-Yes. Tal Cohen. Familiar to us. Did she write something in parentheses?
Yes, I am trying to remember precisely; I made
several attempts to search.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Is this in Walla’s chat?
-of mint.
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc:-Okay
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-And you knew the age from the beginning of the conversation?
– Don’t remember the
correspondence; there were all kinds of posts and so on; I think it was
written.
I got it. Do you want to see it?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Yes. Show it to me; I’ll go over it for a moment.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Are you married?
-Yes.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-I’ll tell you a few more things you may need to do immediately to prevent
any information leakage.
– Okay, here it starts from here.
(Shows them the WhatsApp
conversations)
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-All this in WhatsApp or messages?
-SMS messages.
-I went fast and felt pressured;
I thought it was at 11.
Yes, I may have said 11. Excuse me.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Did you come to the meeting…..?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Oh here’s her picture. Yes, it’s Tal Cohen.
Is she selling?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-She works together with Avi Dubitzky
This is where she starts to stress you out.
“Say you’re here; put on flashing lights.”
‘I saw police on the scene and
flew away.’
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Why did you write that you saw the police and flew away?
I don’t know this… We arranged to meet in one
place. So she tells me it’s not good not to be seen in the car with you.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-And then you haven’t realized yet that she’s working on you.
No, not really. I connected to the section that she changed
to me with the place with the area of the patrol car.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: So you’re saying that until then, you didn’t know it was Ambush.
-Don’t know if the mobile is tied
or not. Suddenly, I saw a patrol car parked; maybe it had nothing to do with
anything.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-She.. related.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Now I have a question. Are you being investigated? Did the police question
you?
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc: You are cautious. You are a careful man by nature.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Let’s put this on the table in
the most honest way.
-Yes.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-The correspondence was carried out from your phone. Reach you. Was it some
time ago?
-A week, a week and a half.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: For the police,
it takes a minute and a half. We will summon you for interrogation. It will
take a week; it will take two weeks. On average,
it takes a month. You will be approached, and you will be required to the investigation.
You will see there is a possibility that they will not reach you, but in light
of the experience of reading along the way, you need to start thinking about
what to say. On the face of it, do you have a cell phone?
Yes.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Is this a phone you advertise in places on the Internet?
-I don’t have that and my work
phone. It’s a phone only for such private matters.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Is this a phone that can be destroyed?
– What is destroying?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: This means cutting off all contact with this phone number and the phone
from which messages originated.
-What to throw it away. What to
do with him?
– That means it goes to the
garbage can…
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Not specifically, this device does not go to the trash but the line itself…
Look, I will tell you, there is no doubt that they can surpass you. It would be
best to cut off contact with this phone line now. Not at all; let us not talk
about all these messages. The fact that you show them to us is beautiful but.
It’s because I didn’t know if you needed it or…
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc: I recommend you don’t.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Avi Dubitzky also has this correspondence.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: “What happens is that you come to the interrogation and take the cell
phone.
-The police can’t recover the
phone’s messages?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-The transfer itself is at a certain level of severity, but this is not
some case of a teenager who can invest all the resources in the matter, and
therefore the chances of it happening are not high. But if it is possible to
make it difficult.
-I’ll sell it or something
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Specifically the device itself. You don’t have to sell the iron. I’m
talking about the phone line that you have there with the messages you need to
format. You might keep a copy, but it could be better to tell the police such a
thing.
-The SIM too? Everything?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:(Yes, with your head)
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: How did you know it was Avi Dubitzky?
We also spoke on the phone yesterday, and I said I
don’t know
So how did you learn to reach it?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Google… Pedophiles. Everything related to the field. Lawyers. You are
the first or second to have something on him.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-I… Even if you type in a criminal lawyer, I’ll be the first to reach him.
-And you didn’t commit any
offenses___?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: I don’t. It’s a girl. Minor. Minors. You get straight to these things.
That’s what I did all Friday and Saturday, and that’s how I got to it.
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc: There is no
investigation at the moment. There is no ongoing investigation so I can tell you. Suppose there is anything that
ties you to the event. Destroy it. Beyond that, if there is an investigation,
the suspicion will be of attempted sexual harassment, this is not the most severe
offense, but there is no doubt that there is something else here… This other
thing is one you have to watch out against. Do you have Facebook?
-Yes.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Does she know what Facebook is?
-Not.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-You must delete it. You must download every photo. Every mention you have on the
Internet on top of the name in front of the cell phone number, download every comment.
Because what Avi Dubitzky and his friends do is collect all the information
about you over the Internet and then upload it in some video. I don’t know if
you’ve seen it. They have some sites where they advertise ‘Beware of a
pedophile’ and then upload the video with your picture whose name also brings
all the correspondence that was And then they are not satisfied with that, they
send messages through Facebook to your friends as well, there have even been
cases where they sent text messages to the couple that he informs them that
this is a pedophile who is under police investigation, this also happened to us,
and they do everything to expose your face in public. We will leave the fact
that you are, by legal definition, you are, of course, not a pedophile, but
they will call you that and will do everything so that this information will be
made public. I know it’s unpleasant to hear, and you’re afraid. It’s not the
end of the world. It can be dealt with, but it must be done smartly.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Besides, you were not caught by the police… Until there is a summons for
questioning.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-There will also be no summons for interrogation. No one called him; maybe
he would come.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Avi Dubitzky’s goal is to make a video for the police. It’s not about you.
-Except for the cell phone..?
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc: You remove all your connection to this affair. If you are called for
questioning by the police, you consult with a lawyer before. Of course, you are
doing it now; one of our employees may also be with you by name. Gladly. What
you say big time in the investigation if you are going to deny… ‘Nope. I
don’t know what you’re talking about. Really. Do you have any proof? That I did
it?’ They will tell you Avi Dubitzky’s correspondence, so you deny it. So let’s
say and get on top of the fact that the number is yours. ‘Guys. What do you
want from me? Check my phone and then come and tell me I’m guilty of something,
I didn’t admit to anything, and I’m not connected to this incident; I have no
idea what you’re talking about; I’m a family man. Leave me alone.’
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-From an evidentiary point of view, they have to prove that it’s his phone.
And if there is no correspondence on his cell phone, they will not bring him up
on trial. If he denies it and there is no testimony on the phone, they will not
go to trial; I tell you that you must disconnect from the telephone line…
Sell your phone. And the line you will destroy.
And then wait to be summoned from the interrogation?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: First of all, disconnect from the SIM card. Take the SIM off your name.
Call your company and say you need to download the SIM card.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Is this a monthly bill?
-yes
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: “So just disconnect from them and tell them, ‘I want to close the
line.’
And can’t you check whom the number belonged to?
But the efforts they will invest in this in advance,
I tell you that they are not high, and even if they check, it does not prove that
it came out of your phone, and if you go and say
that it came out of your phone, then you did the work for them… By the way,
even if you say it’s you and correspond according to statistics, the chances of
being indicted are meager. But it’s big… It’s still unpleasant, and Avi
Dubitzky may be waiting outside the station.
The second part is what made me nervous. You said
they were texting family and friends.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Yes. I can tell you that this morning we were sitting, and there was a man
about whom they uploaded a video. He arrived at the scene and was arrested. Avi
Dubitzky filmed it… He sat here broken, lost his wife, and is currently
working legally. But there is no doubt about the damage it causes in
imprisonment. Damage…
-Married?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Yes, he is married and has children already.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Where do you work?…
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Independent? Employee?
-Independent
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Where are you from in Israel?
-From Sunday
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Listen, let’s look at this rationally.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: First of all, this has not yet been revealed. So relax. And even if it is
exposed, it will not necessarily be exposed to people you don’t want it to be
exposed to; it is the stuff of a specific audience.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Download a profile. You’re going to delete everything on the Internet.
Your phone number… Let’s see for a moment.
-No need; I don’t put phones
online.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Check? Okay, that’s already good. Because the information they take is mainly
from the Internet, if your phone doesn’t appear with your name on the Internet,
it’s already good; Facebook said you got it, right?… Does she know your full
name?
-Not.
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc:-Strong. (Laughs)
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Already is good. Have you ever exposed it? Sure? Did she try to get the
name out? Did you say your first name?
-She also can’t tell; I told her
another name.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-They will reach you through a phone number. And this phone is registered
in your name.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-That’s why it will take them some time.
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc: Do you have employees? Do you leave your phone promiscuous somewhere? Can someone
use it when you don’t know?
-Can if I’m in business.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Well, maybe someone came in and did things…
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: I have an idea. Listen. You need to update the cellular company and tell
them that the phone and sim card was stolen and you are no longer interested in
the line. So you want to change strings. Okay?
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-Loved it!
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:(_Laughing)
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: Someone stole your device. Say it was a few months ago, and you want to
avoid paying for a machine and a line that is not mine anymore and maybe open a
new line. At the same time, you will be attentive and available on the phone.
If you are called, the police will have to stick to the version that you do not
know what it is about and make a surprised face. Look, he will try to come up
with something. But if he tries, he has connections on Google and other sites. Suppose
he does something like that even before Investigation. There are grounds for
defamation here with all my might. But, of course, this will also prevent any
possible investigation in the future.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc: You are relatively well. Follow these tips
Criminal Attorney Assaf Doc: I hope very much, but in any case, they will not reach you
-Ok. All right. I.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-You have to think already in your head about the answers to the
investigators’ questions. The only thing they have is a phone number. All the explanations
you will have will be around just the fact that they have the phone. Did you
send a photo of yourself?
– Not all of a sudden.
Criminal defense attorney Assaf Doc:-So is excellent.